Post by Mahn on Sept 12, 2005 12:30:59 GMT -6
After hard work of looking over this, here you go. Hope everybody enjoys it. Also note I gathered these from Dagolar, Mettool, and myself in the process.
Email 1
From: <EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED>
To: "Dagolar" ganer_mcmichaels@hotmail.com
Subject: so hows your game? ;p
Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 07:50:54 -0400
So Dagy hows your game FFTHG going
, oh i forget did it have a little crash? I'm sure the people at square-enix found many traces of copywrite. They seemed pretty mad when that mysterious person "me" tipped them about "your" game. It seems it didnt matter that you put Final Fantasy as the title, that probly made it worse. Dont worry your game will run again if you listen to my conditions. Listen Dag. you cant take pictures without asking, you cant take characters without asking, its you and those other queers faults that your game got shut down. You cant blame me.
On the other fact you should not have banned me to begin with, your gm's should have taken care of that guy who ran arouind calling me a n*gg*r, and saying to the person who was with me to join him and become a natzi.
Anyways email me a.s.a.p and tell me what you think of these conditions, otherwise if you dont agree to 1, the game will never run again!
1. I shall become a GM, and host
2. Axel Revolver and Mahn will be IP Banned from the game
3. Reap, Hiro, and the other Gm's will be stripped of GM, and i will recruit who i want.
4. I will obtain full GM powers, and host powers.
and finally. 5. Your second game will be hosted by me when it comes out, and when i get bored of the first one.
Of course this time for your second game you will have to use your own monsters and characters.
Have Fun and remember Email me a.s.a.p
Email 2
From: <EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED>
To: "Dagolar" ganer_mcmichaels@hotmail.com
Subject: is that all your gonna say?
Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 12:35:20 -0400
Thanks Lou... (Quote from Dagolar's exact reply)
Ha, so pahetic, "Thanks Lou..." do you take my offer or not, i can be quite the bastard can i not. It's your choice Dag. Your game can run again like this incident never happened, or your future will lead to no sequal, unless of course you make your own monsters, CS's and etc.... but thatll take long, and of course since i have good relations with S-Enix, i could report you in a flash.
Just remember Dag. I can be a good friend, if you scratch my back, ill scratch your back, If you spit in my face, ill spit right back. get the picture.
Do those five favors, and ill bring back your game, know what im saying?
Email 3
From: <EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED>
To: drumettool@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: You're full of shit.
Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 12:48:54 -0400
You think YOU scare ME Hah, since i reported you, EA and Square are good friends now. You possibly can take me on, but we have over 400 computers at both of our companies in disposal. You think you can take us all on, just remember over 50 of those computers belong to our legal departments. And if you ban them then im afraid instead of just shutting you down next
time, we are preparing a lawsuit in advance. Oh yeah next time you email me, make sure i don't read it in front of our legal department, just a little heads up.
They are even watching me as im writing this email. We have 10 high priced lawyers on our side too, and already detected 5 cases of copywrite. So if you dont follow our conditions, and you want to take us all on, you shall not win this battle
Email 4
From: <EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED>
To: drumettool@hotmail.com
Subject: this isnt over yet!
Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 15:16:10 -0400
I believe we both lose this one. We would rather shut down the game than hand it over to a conglomerate. We will have a decision for you this evening. (Quote from Mettool's exact reply)
What do you mean by we both lose, i might not be able to get you to get me to be a full GM, but in the end Ea and S-Enix will win.
Alright how about we talk about an agreement.
So what do you got in plan? ill read your email in the morning, and whats with the insult, i didnt insult you did I!
So let me, the Ea and S-Enix legal department hear out what bullshit you got to say!
..........and how long you will keep what you say
Sincerly Granus/Archer67
Email 5
From: <EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED>
To: ganer_mcmichaels@hotmail.com
Subject: how about this Dag.
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 10:41:14 -0400
Okay since i realise you or your friends wont cooperate with me, how about this?
Ill talk to SE about activating your game once again. but you and your friends do me a favor.
Since i realise you or your friends or your regulars will treat me like shit even if im to bring it back. Then if you want your game back you can choose one of these options.
And if you still dont want in, then tell me what you and your Gm's could offer me. So you can choose 5 to 10 of these 10 options. If you cant agree to at least five then what can i do to make sure im not racially discriminated. (thats probably a typo)
1.Your guys send me apology letters and ill do the same for them and ill forget this ever happened
2.If they treat me with respect ill treat them with respect
*3.The swear filter must include all words equal to racial comments, and more
*4. Unban my character otherwise ill not even listen to the agreement.
5. IF YOU CAN give me my old character that was deleted. Scythe, Steel Mail, Basinet, Mithril Armlet.
Level 36 STR:128 VIT: 99 AGI:126 DEX:129 WILL:72.
*6. Include SE in your credits, give them some credit. Otherwise they wont listen to me. Which means they wont listen to you
*7. Tell the GM's not to send me anymore email, if they want to send me emails they can tell you a summary but if they do send me porn and spam, i will not spend any time talking a comprimise with SE.
8. Granus will be known as a person and not an object to insult. His son Baramos will also be allowed to play just as well.
*9. I am a person with emotions and feelings, i have black lineage, i probably have Jewish Lineage too, eitherway i love black and jewish people, and it hurts me as well as them.
10. I might be a big liar, but that is my problem to fix, it is not others jobs to tell me im telling tall tails. I might not really work for Ea or SE but i do know when game realese dates do come out. And people actually talk to me when i talk about that. ........no one wants to be ignored.
Contact me a.s.a.p. And remember what i said in paragraph 7. You contact me a.s.a.p
My reply to Email 5
From: Mahn <mahnster101@gmail.com>
To: <EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED>
Date: Aug 5, 2005 1:24 PM
Subject: Your 10 demands
We will not submit to your 10 demands. You will remain banned from the server, the forums, and other emails.
bwicki.byond.com/ByondBwicki.dmb?FanGames
Before you do actually threaten us with a lawsuit, know the law on copyright infringement for "fan-games". Don't get me wrong, Square can sue but they would have to sue every single fan game on BYOND including FFO, FFL, DMO, DME, DBZ, etc etc...ALONG with BYOND itself for letting it happen. The game is making NO MONEY and under the "fan-games" channel, we are not violating anything in the copyright infringement law. If anything, we helping promote their "legal games" by having people play ours. Also note if you continue to send us emails, I will take you to federal court and sue you for Attempted Extortion, Harassment, and Terroristic Threats. I am actually an "OK" guy but you are the one that got on my "bad side". I am more then willing to talk to you but you are the one that is acting like a kid. We are all adults here and none of this needs to happen. You let me know if you want to TALK or not.
- Mahn
Email 6
From: <EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED>
To: mahnster101@gmail.com
Date: Aug 5, 2005 2:06 PM
Subject: fine...lets talk
I understand, i am not trying to be a terrorist, i am not a bad guy if you get to know me well. Even if we do talk and try to resolve our problems you still got to talk to SE. Thats not my job. And personally i hate that game now, i have no friends on Byond. Thats how i started and thats how i finished. I am making my own game now from scratch. Talk to Se, by going on the web site and going under support. Then go on Live support and talk to the legal department. They will possibly tell you to change your game, or give them credit.
Good Luck in your next game.
My reply to Email 6
From: Mahn <mahnster101@gmail.com>
To: <EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED>
Date: Aug 5, 2005 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: fine...lets talk
We do not have to talk to Square under any circumstances. By being a fan-game and by legal actions, they are getting credit already. We will go about our business.
- Mahn
End transmission - Feel free to reply to this post.
Email 1
From: <EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED>
To: "Dagolar" ganer_mcmichaels@hotmail.com
Subject: so hows your game? ;p
Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 07:50:54 -0400
So Dagy hows your game FFTHG going
, oh i forget did it have a little crash? I'm sure the people at square-enix found many traces of copywrite. They seemed pretty mad when that mysterious person "me" tipped them about "your" game. It seems it didnt matter that you put Final Fantasy as the title, that probly made it worse. Dont worry your game will run again if you listen to my conditions. Listen Dag. you cant take pictures without asking, you cant take characters without asking, its you and those other queers faults that your game got shut down. You cant blame me. On the other fact you should not have banned me to begin with, your gm's should have taken care of that guy who ran arouind calling me a n*gg*r, and saying to the person who was with me to join him and become a natzi.
Anyways email me a.s.a.p and tell me what you think of these conditions, otherwise if you dont agree to 1, the game will never run again!
1. I shall become a GM, and host
2. Axel Revolver and Mahn will be IP Banned from the game
3. Reap, Hiro, and the other Gm's will be stripped of GM, and i will recruit who i want.
4. I will obtain full GM powers, and host powers.
and finally. 5. Your second game will be hosted by me when it comes out, and when i get bored of the first one.
Of course this time for your second game you will have to use your own monsters and characters.
Have Fun and remember Email me a.s.a.p
Email 2
From: <EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED>
To: "Dagolar" ganer_mcmichaels@hotmail.com
Subject: is that all your gonna say?
Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 12:35:20 -0400
Thanks Lou... (Quote from Dagolar's exact reply)
Ha, so pahetic, "Thanks Lou..." do you take my offer or not, i can be quite the bastard can i not. It's your choice Dag. Your game can run again like this incident never happened, or your future will lead to no sequal, unless of course you make your own monsters, CS's and etc.... but thatll take long, and of course since i have good relations with S-Enix, i could report you in a flash.
Just remember Dag. I can be a good friend, if you scratch my back, ill scratch your back, If you spit in my face, ill spit right back. get the picture.
Do those five favors, and ill bring back your game, know what im saying?
Email 3
From: <EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED>
To: drumettool@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: You're full of shit.
Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 12:48:54 -0400
You think YOU scare ME Hah, since i reported you, EA and Square are good friends now. You possibly can take me on, but we have over 400 computers at both of our companies in disposal. You think you can take us all on, just remember over 50 of those computers belong to our legal departments. And if you ban them then im afraid instead of just shutting you down next
time, we are preparing a lawsuit in advance. Oh yeah next time you email me, make sure i don't read it in front of our legal department, just a little heads up.
They are even watching me as im writing this email. We have 10 high priced lawyers on our side too, and already detected 5 cases of copywrite. So if you dont follow our conditions, and you want to take us all on, you shall not win this battle
Email 4
From: <EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED>
To: drumettool@hotmail.com
Subject: this isnt over yet!
Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 15:16:10 -0400
I believe we both lose this one. We would rather shut down the game than hand it over to a conglomerate. We will have a decision for you this evening. (Quote from Mettool's exact reply)
What do you mean by we both lose, i might not be able to get you to get me to be a full GM, but in the end Ea and S-Enix will win.
Alright how about we talk about an agreement.
So what do you got in plan? ill read your email in the morning, and whats with the insult, i didnt insult you did I!
So let me, the Ea and S-Enix legal department hear out what bullshit you got to say!
..........and how long you will keep what you say
Sincerly Granus/Archer67
Email 5
From: <EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED>
To: ganer_mcmichaels@hotmail.com
Subject: how about this Dag.
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 10:41:14 -0400
Okay since i realise you or your friends wont cooperate with me, how about this?
Ill talk to SE about activating your game once again. but you and your friends do me a favor.
Since i realise you or your friends or your regulars will treat me like shit even if im to bring it back. Then if you want your game back you can choose one of these options.
And if you still dont want in, then tell me what you and your Gm's could offer me. So you can choose 5 to 10 of these 10 options. If you cant agree to at least five then what can i do to make sure im not racially discriminated. (thats probably a typo)
1.Your guys send me apology letters and ill do the same for them and ill forget this ever happened
2.If they treat me with respect ill treat them with respect
*3.The swear filter must include all words equal to racial comments, and more
*4. Unban my character otherwise ill not even listen to the agreement.
5. IF YOU CAN give me my old character that was deleted. Scythe, Steel Mail, Basinet, Mithril Armlet.
Level 36 STR:128 VIT: 99 AGI:126 DEX:129 WILL:72.
*6. Include SE in your credits, give them some credit. Otherwise they wont listen to me. Which means they wont listen to you
*7. Tell the GM's not to send me anymore email, if they want to send me emails they can tell you a summary but if they do send me porn and spam, i will not spend any time talking a comprimise with SE.
8. Granus will be known as a person and not an object to insult. His son Baramos will also be allowed to play just as well.
*9. I am a person with emotions and feelings, i have black lineage, i probably have Jewish Lineage too, eitherway i love black and jewish people, and it hurts me as well as them.
10. I might be a big liar, but that is my problem to fix, it is not others jobs to tell me im telling tall tails. I might not really work for Ea or SE but i do know when game realese dates do come out. And people actually talk to me when i talk about that. ........no one wants to be ignored.
Contact me a.s.a.p. And remember what i said in paragraph 7. You contact me a.s.a.p
My reply to Email 5
From: Mahn <mahnster101@gmail.com>
To: <EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED>
Date: Aug 5, 2005 1:24 PM
Subject: Your 10 demands
We will not submit to your 10 demands. You will remain banned from the server, the forums, and other emails.
bwicki.byond.com/ByondBwicki.dmb?FanGames
Before you do actually threaten us with a lawsuit, know the law on copyright infringement for "fan-games". Don't get me wrong, Square can sue but they would have to sue every single fan game on BYOND including FFO, FFL, DMO, DME, DBZ, etc etc...ALONG with BYOND itself for letting it happen. The game is making NO MONEY and under the "fan-games" channel, we are not violating anything in the copyright infringement law. If anything, we helping promote their "legal games" by having people play ours. Also note if you continue to send us emails, I will take you to federal court and sue you for Attempted Extortion, Harassment, and Terroristic Threats. I am actually an "OK" guy but you are the one that got on my "bad side". I am more then willing to talk to you but you are the one that is acting like a kid. We are all adults here and none of this needs to happen. You let me know if you want to TALK or not.
- Mahn
Email 6
From: <EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED>
To: mahnster101@gmail.com
Date: Aug 5, 2005 2:06 PM
Subject: fine...lets talk
I understand, i am not trying to be a terrorist, i am not a bad guy if you get to know me well. Even if we do talk and try to resolve our problems you still got to talk to SE. Thats not my job. And personally i hate that game now, i have no friends on Byond. Thats how i started and thats how i finished. I am making my own game now from scratch. Talk to Se, by going on the web site and going under support. Then go on Live support and talk to the legal department. They will possibly tell you to change your game, or give them credit.
Good Luck in your next game.
My reply to Email 6
From: Mahn <mahnster101@gmail.com>
To: <EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED>
Date: Aug 5, 2005 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: fine...lets talk
We do not have to talk to Square under any circumstances. By being a fan-game and by legal actions, they are getting credit already. We will go about our business.
- Mahn
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