Omg Daggers.

[FenrirXIII]

Hmm. There's not really a general thread for mild complaints...so.

Its been bothering me for awhile, but I guess when I was looking into the usage of daggers, it motivated me enough to complain/whine >.>.

Rdm's, according to the website, can only use 3 daggers. Thats cool. ok. So I had a friend check out the daggers, the only one that isn't near completely useless is the poignard, and It cannot be used by rdms.

Why is this a problem , you say? Cause Blackmages can use it. Okay, wtf. >.>

In fact, black mages can use more daggers than Redmages. Um...Thats way off balance, IMO. Blackmages NEVER melee, unless its because the enemy is so weak its easier to save Mp and melee attack. They just need it for less weight, for agility i guess. Is Red mage not the halfbreed? Why is it that a full mage who isn't build to melee at all, can use a weapon that a job who is meant to be the jack of all trades not able to use more than a black mage?

I seriously think that when the newer class upgrades and changes were made, rdm and ranger weren't thought out completely, weren't tested enough for balance.

Perhaps, it was that Red mage wasn't given certain spells in order to keep it at a nice balance. Of course, it wasn't meant at all to be better than any one job at its own game. Understandable. Instead of limiting it in that aspect, and balancing it as to be decently versatile, it came out sub-par and it does not bring any specialties to the table.

I understand it is completely a support role and it is not meant to stand out, but its just plain weak. It has no strong suits, and If you try to go for a certain build, you still lack what other jobs can specialize in.

What I'm saying is that Red mages, Rangers, and the rest of the classes need to be carefully looked at and assessed to see how each one of them is unique, and to make sure Red mages and Rangers are treated with equal respect as their own classes and be given more thought.


SUMMARY: BLM can use more daggers than Redmages? Um. Red mage = more melee than blm. So no. Red mages and Rangers are jacks of all trades, but there in lies their problem, and need to be tweaked so that they have their own identities and abilities that other jobs do not have, as well. </ongoing battle for rdm equality>

[Taterz]

rangers arent weak, have you seen teh beevar? besides, rdm would not be caught dead with a knife, as their sword would do much more damage when added with instill element

[Mahn]

Daggers are the weakest weapon in the game(overall). Blackmages are the weakest melee in the game(overall).

Makes sense to me...

Daggers are the last resort of Blackmages' offense ability in case they run out of mana. Do you see a Blackmage putting points into Strength, Agility, or Dexterity? I would think not. Daggers looks balanced to me.

[talon]

To my understanding, (words of Kija.. although not a complete quote..), red mages have instill ability. This is due to the fact that they are not in as much control of their magic, which cases it to drip' into their blade sometimes. They can force this, which causes instill element. However, because of this, they need stronger and more viable weapons, else it would meld as they hold it. This is why daggers are not a choice of red mages, and red mages will never use one if they can, because most daggers would meld in and to their hands, causing extreme pain and, possible, dismembering of the aformentioned limbs. Besides, like Mahn's said. Daggers are the weaker of the blades, why would yo whine so much for the weaker damage rates?

[Sarm]

You'd expect the weakest of weapons to be the ones that are widely used. It's obvious why every class can't swing an axe, but something the size of a knife?

[FenrirXIII]

To be more agile. Something that doesnt weigh alot. There arent alot of high-end swords or weapons that are really light, or anywhere near that of a dagger. Thats why

[areon]

Fenrir my RM has a polearm that ways the same as my armor, just depends on what equipment you use.

[Rapta111]

There's a difference though. Weapon Weight affects attack speed, while Armor weight affects your evasion speed.