Black belt Suggestions

[hawkus1]

Round 2 of my posts this time I'm going to delve into spells and ability's for the Black belt as suggestions.

1. Suggestions for the Black belt class - A Black belt is melee class character but as the name suggests they are a master of martial arts, thus the kick ability. there are 2 ways to approach this I think , 1 , as a natural ability ,or 2, as a mp ability.

Kick (as an ability or could also be called roundhouse) menu options in battle could have 2 different styles of attacks one is the normal fight command and a new menu option known as kicking in addition to the blitz command . Kicking an opponent would deal twice the normal dmg as fighting but the number of hits would be reduced by 25% - 50% of normal or max hits

Kick (as a mp ability or could also be called Roundhouse) - 1 or 2 mp cost - Attacks 1 target and if it is a successful hit , dmg is increased +50 % in addition to its current dmg rating , if the kick is a critical hit this increases to 75 % of current dmg , and a mortal wound doubles current dmg, in addition to any bonuses a critical or mortal wound inflicts , dmg is limited to 1 hit . Costs no mp if missed.

Blitz tactics would be unaffected by kicking or could be added to the list as an option, another option for a Black belt to use.

2. Since increasing the black belts willpower is considered a gimmick approach and not a viable option for many to use I thought since the Black belt uses a healing and an offensive magic spell, a small increase in mp (15-20 total when leveling so +2 mp or+3 mp) and a Black belt could add a few spells to its list and add a little spice to there abilities, here are a few suggestions ...

Multiplied Aura bolt - area effect spell - 9 mp cost - Deals magic damage equal to Willpower *2 +20 to 40.

Multiplied Mantra - party area spell - (similar to heal storm) 9 mp cost - Whole party regains HP equal to Willpower +20 to 40.

In a worst case scenario this adds a few options to the Black belt , and the argument that a Black belt would be too much like a mage class is dismissed because Black belts can't meditate nor can they continue to blast opponents or heal their allies for very long before running out of mana .

3. Not a spell or an ability but the no weapons policy I would like to see changed . As they are martial arts masters there should be a few weapons a BB could use...

Quarterstaff - is already a weapon in ffthg
Leather Gloves (is this an armor item i forget??)increases accuracy by 10 %
Brass Knuckles - adds +25 % to total dmg, +25 % chance for a critical hit, decreases accuracy by 10 %
Nunchuckus - +2 to 4 hits, adds +10 to 20% to total dmg
Cat Claws - +2 to 4 hits, +25% dmg added to total dmg
Poison Claws - +1 to 2 hits , adds a poison effect like a poison 1 spell
Razor Claws - +2 to 4 hits, +25 % dmg per hit, +5% chance of an instant kill

Anything I'm missing here plz let me know!

[gabriel]

hawkus1 said:

Round 2 of my posts this time I'm going to delve into spells and ability's for the Black belt as suggestions.

1. Suggestions for the Black belt class - A Black belt is melee class character but as the name suggests they are a master of martial arts, thus the kick ability. there are 2 ways to approach this I think , 1 , as a natural ability ,or 2, as a mp ability.

Kick (as an ability or could also be called roundhouse) menu options in battle could have 2 different styles of attacks one is the normal fight command and a new menu option known as kicking in addition to the blitz command . Kicking an opponent would deal twice the normal dmg as fighting but the number of hits would be reduced by 25% - 50% of normal or max hits

Kick (as a mp ability or could also be called Roundhouse) - 1 or 2 mp cost - Attacks 1 target and if it is a successful hit , dmg is increased +50 % in addition to its current dmg rating , if the kick is a critical hit this increases to 75 % of current dmg , and a mortal wound doubles current dmg, in addition to any bonuses a critical or mortal wound inflicts , dmg is limited to 1 hit . Costs no mp if missed.

Blitz tactics would be unaffected by kicking or could be added to the list as an option, another option for a Black belt to use.

2. Since increasing the black belts willpower is considered a gimmick approach and not a viable option for many to use I thought since the Black belt uses a healing and an offensive magic spell, a small increase in mp (15-20 total when leveling so +2 mp or+3 mp) and a Black belt could add a few spells to its list and add a little spice to there abilities, here are a few suggestions ...

Multiplied Aura bolt - area effect spell - 9 mp cost - Deals magic damage equal to Willpower *2 +20 to 40.

Multiplied Mantra - party area spell - (similar to heal storm) 9 mp cost - Whole party regains HP equal to Willpower +20 to 40.

In a worst case scenario this adds a few options to the Black belt , and the argument that a Black belt would be too much like a mage class is dismissed because Black belts can't meditate nor can they continue to blast opponents or heal their allies for very long before running out of mana .

3. Not a spell or an ability but the no weapons policy I would like to see changed . As they are martial arts masters there should be a few weapons a BB could use...

Quarterstaff - is already a weapon in ffthg
Leather Gloves (is this an armor item i forget??)increases accuracy by 10 %
Brass Knuckles - adds +25 % to total dmg, +25 % chance for a critical hit, decreases accuracy by 10 %
Nunchuckus - +2 to 4 hits, adds +10 to 20% to total dmg
Cat Claws - +2 to 4 hits, +25% dmg added to total dmg
Poison Claws - +1 to 2 hits , adds a poison effect like a poison 1 spell
Razor Claws - +2 to 4 hits, +25 % dmg per hit, +5% chance of an instant kill

Anything I'm missing here plz let me know!

I like the idea of adding more blitz's. Maybe kick as an alternative to pummel or even better the horizontal version of rush attack. I agree that the BB could use more MP, but there is really no need for it. When I solo tote I tend to have a good amount of MP. Maybe 1 to 2 more points but being that the other melee classes also have 15 mp (by level 60) there is no real argument for BB getting more. Raising Aura bolt to class 2 could make sense but BB's tend to be 1 on 1 fighters. The only area that have is Rush. Team Mantra doesnt work because of the nature of the BB. He is all into himself ying yang etc so having an ability that heals himself cause of his training makes sense but not to the extend of an HS. Maybe make mantra a choice as to who gets healed but it doesnt work with the concept of the character. Screw the weapons, I love me 18 hits. We shouldnt be making a new type of weapon just for this class. All weapons have their max hits, no need to create one that adds to your current. The uproar from other chars would be huge. Damn, I really do come off negative. Well I vote that BB be able to wear at least one more piece of armor.

[Not]

hawkus1 said:

Round 2 of my posts this time I'm going to delve into spells and ability's for the Black belt as suggestions.

1. Suggestions for the Black belt class - A Black belt is melee class character but as the name suggests they are a master of martial arts, thus the kick ability. there are 2 ways to approach this I think , 1 , as a natural ability ,or 2, as a mp ability.

A kick command would have to greatly reduce their hits as a punch is thrown faster than kicks. An extra battle option of an attack that would do possibly more damage than acutally attacking itself.

hawkus1 said:

2. Since increasing the black belts willpower is considered a gimmick approach and not a viable option for many to use I thought since the Black belt uses a healing and an offensive magic spell, a small increase in mp (15-20 total when leveling so +2 mp or+3 mp) and a Black belt could add a few spells to its list and add a little spice to there abilities, here are a few suggestions ...

Multiplied Aura bolt - area effect spell - 9 mp cost - Deals magic damage equal to Willpower *2 +20 to 40.

Multiplied Mantra - party area spell - (similar to heal storm) 9 mp cost - Whole party regains HP equal to Willpower +20 to 40.

The multiple mantra would be hardly used due to its greatly weakened state, the best option for a party based heal would be to exclude the blackbelt himself from acutally being healed while doing a mass heal.

Aurabolt isn't used enough as it is, so making it fire multiple shots wouldn't make much of a difference.

hawkus1 said:

3. Not a spell or an ability but the no weapons policy I would like to see changed . As they are martial arts masters there should be a few weapons a BB could use...

Quarterstaff - is already a weapon in ffthg
Leather Gloves (is this an armor item i forget??)increases accuracy by 10 %
Brass Knuckles - adds +25 % to total dmg, +25 % chance for a critical hit, decreases accuracy by 10 %
Nunchuckus - +2 to 4 hits, adds +10 to 20% to total dmg
Cat Claws - +2 to 4 hits, +25% dmg added to total dmg
Poison Claws - +1 to 2 hits , adds a poison effect like a poison 1 spell
Razor Claws - +2 to 4 hits, +25 % dmg per hit, +5% chance of an instant kill

The whole point of the blackbelt is its not using weapons at all, pummel with 25% damage, 58 hits?

If that was the case I'd make Nijaku pure strength and be doing more damage than Kain.

[Takahashi]

Both kick ideas a are a little off, especially the one that would double melee damage while only (at most) cutting the number of hits in half. There'd be no reason to use the normal fight command since the Kick command would be result in a guaranteed 100-150% damage output. The other one would be the opposite; one hit at 150/175/200% normal damage if a normal/crit/MW would rarely be worth it. BBs easily get enough hits such that the bonus damage from them outdo the bonus given to Kick/Roundhouse.

Multi-target Aurabolt and Mantra skills are good ideas and might be implemented. If they do though, they'll cost less MP than you've suggested. 9 MP is FAR too high, even under a 15-20 max MP model. It'd be like having Healstorm 2 or Lightstorm 3 costing hundreds of MP. As for weaponry, the idea of giving BBs usable weapons has been tossed around. Like with other weapon types, in such a case there will be only straight boosts to attack power on BB weapons, never percentage boosts.