Nadrew, Loud, and FFL

[Mahn]

I'd like to bring to attention I stopped by in the FFL server and an admin introduced me to the players on-line. I also found out Loud has returned and was on the server when I went there. I got summoned by one of the Admins and I talked with Loud and the others. As much as people say about them and their community, they are not bad. They don't bash or talk shit about us. In case you have not recently heard, Nadrew has "stolen" FFL from Loud. I was not banned and welcomed to talk about FF:THG there. For those who do not know Loud, he did the battle system back in the early versions of FF:THG and he has much thanks from me for doing so. I told them to keep on making the game because we need friendly competition. Keep in mind, if I get any reports from any FFL admin for spam, advertising for our game, and bashing...I will ban you in all the ways I can. I am glad for Loud and his admins on their work with FFL and wish they continue. I for one, hope Nadrew gets what is coming to him if he did it AND if he didn't do it, apologies? We have to be both positive and negative during this conflict. I honestly, don't want FFL to die but alot of you may think differently. Well, FUCK YOU ALL YOU ASSHOLES WHO WANT FFL DEAD!!!

Here is the thread on Nadrew if it will still be available. Most of the times, they are deleted.

Click here for Nadrew thread

[U. Dye]

admin said:

Well, f*ck YOU ALL YOU a**holeS WHO WANT FFL DEAD!!!

Well, that pretty much says it all, right there... Either Mahn feels strongly about this, or there's just an assload of people that think FFL needs to be pushing up daisies. *looks at Mahn* Or is it both?

[Mahn]

FFL shouldn't go out like it is going out...No game should go out because of Nadrew and such. A game should die on it's own.

[Rowan]

I was around for when Loud quit FFL, his friend Lance took over and until the server was overthrown and Nadrew started up his, be it the stolen version or the original. He added things to the original source such as new continents but even still thats like Druid making CMWarrior and claiming he owns Dragon Warrior. FFL is apart of my byond history as much as FFTHG or DWO and I really hope it doesn't die off because of Nadrew, people have wanted him gone for so many versions now and maybe now it will happen if hes abusing powers so openly. So good luck to Loud and the rest of FFL.

[balzack]

I long for the day when game owners will come to the realization that it is a bad thing to welcome Nadrew into their communities

I mean, most of them eventually see the light. But with his track record I really see no reason to let him have power in the first place.

As much as I really didn't like DWQ, Nadrew (as well as Mart I suppose) were a hugely attributing factor that led to that games utter ruin. Then what happens? Nadrew immediately latched himself onto FFL, much to the chagrin of the majority of their community.

I honestly feel sorry for Tom. He's likely received more complaints about Nadrew over the past couple of years then the rest of the BYOND staff combined (one of these came from me.)

When Nadrew was promoted to his current rank in BYOND (one of three or four people who can view the IPs and keys of any/all BYONDers, in essence total power) do you know what he did? He logged into Dragon Warrior Online and gloated about it, then demonstrated his abilities by reading off related keys of certain players who were online at the time. To top it all off, he then BYOND banned somebody (Selderan) for making fun of him in the game.

Tom sympathized with me about this when I emailed him about it, but he didn't do anything besides unban Selderan. Know why? Because once Nadrew latches on, he never lets go until everything is dead...just like a freaking leech. It took HUGE effort to even get rid of him on DWO.

So I hope Loud can get his game back. It wasn't really my cup of tea, but I enjoyed myself on it for a while, and I know a lot of other folks really enjoy it too.

I fear the curse of Nadrew won't be over with until EVERYONE who has had to deal with him bands together and makes a joint case against him on the BYOND forums.

[talon]

Wow, hi Balzack. O.o o.O

[Kyou]

Hey BZ,

and anyone up for some anarchy against Nads? *coughtesticlecough*

[lym]

Well, I somehow managed to not see this post sooner.

FFL and THG are two different games in many aspects. We do not condone slandering THG on FFL , nor any other game, for that matter.

However, in the past year, there have been a lot of changes in the chain of command, especially whilst I was away. Nadrew's control over FFL was questionable.I find it disturbing that he would publish "his" version of FFL, and even more so, after Frank's byond ban.

In any case, I am back now and these things will ceise to happen. I hope we all enjoy both games!Heck, I play THG a lot....


Oreldwin.