Comments/Opinions (Please Post)

[Mahn]

Mettool's recent behavior as shown, that he is, in fact a bastard worse then me. I know I am a big bastard at times but I wouldn't stoop down to that level all over BYOND. He is the one himself who chose to become a "bad host" by his own actions, we did not treat him like crap.

• He never showed up to the meetings. When he did, he left when discussions were getting started on classes/skills/spells/changes.
  
  
• He refused to update the game for errors and bug fixes. He only wanted them sent on Saturday and only update once a week; even then, he didn't update them most of the time.
  
  
• He said himself all he wanted to do was host and quit working on the new PoP2 map.
  

In all honesty, I respected his ass since I came and played this game in Version One; but that turned the other way with these things. He even retracted his apology on his blog and never gave one to Kija who didn't deserve the god-damn verbal abuse he has been getting. He blamed us for making him a bad host yet, he refused to make himself a better host by not cooperating or doing anything. I think he just played us all for saps through-out the years and that bullshit is just wrong. It is quick to come though that Silk offered him a hosting position even though he is a "bad host"; seems suspicious to me. He has changed and became a total bastard that not even I would have turned into. I take my respect back from him and he can go rot in hell. He has serious issues with false accusations and is an egotistic asshole. He needs to go get help on his problems.

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members.byond.com/?command=view_post&post=17704 ~~ Mettool's blog post.

members.byond.com/?command=view_comments&post=17704 ~~ Replies can be found here. The one at the very bottom is the starting reply. You can then use the previous button at the bottom to go to the next page, same way. I don't know why I am telling ya'll this since ya'll should know how they work but...pfft.

silkgames.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2371 ~~ A side thread posted on Silk's forums.


This thread is directed to every other person of The Brotherhood here on reading ya'll's opinions and comments about recent activities about Mettool. It would be best for every other Brotherhood member to post here and give comments. The benefit of teamwork is knowing each other's opinions on certain situations. The list is Kija, Tral, Stryfe, Hiro, and Faru. Don't give the excuse "This is before my time" or "I don't know much about it" *shifts eyes to Stryfe, Tral, and Faru*

This concerns every one of us as FF-THG and The Brotherhood were just slapped in the god-damn face.

[Takahashi]

In all honesty, I don't care what Met or Silk (especially Silk) have to say at this point. Met decided to flake out on his responsibilities and shift the blame for things he did (or refused to do) onto others, so fuck him. Silk is Silk, who has his head up his ass and has never met a strawman argument he didn't like, so fuck him too.

We can either take this seriously and end up being mired in a debate with a quitter and a lazy double standard-loving son of a bitch (and the bandwagoners that are convinced they speak no wrong), or we can move on and recognize things for as they are. Defending ourselves won't change things all that much; Silk and friends will still circlejerk each other and Met will continue to allow himself to be convinced that nothing about his behavior was his fault. We could present in-game logs and the like that outright prove that Met is a lazy bastard, yet Silk or someone else would either ignore it or look for a way to spin it into something that makes Met look good.

Simply put, fuck Met and fuck Silk. Silk's always been a self-centered shit stirrer; the sooner we ignore him and his band of nuthuggers (now including Met), the better. It was a shitty thing for Met to do without a doubt, but I think the best course of action is to not let it get to us and just shrug it off. Really, why should we be that bothered by the words from someone who we know took the easy way out and refuses to accept his shortcomings? The only thing that separated him from previous delinquents like Mattgan is that he managed to convince everyone of his genuine interest for helping the game for several years instead of several months.

Again, if we continue to defend ourselves, Silk and his cronies will just look for ways to twist our words or outright fabricate things; they'll act like they've won the argument. Hell, Silk's already acting like he's proven without a doubt that Kija is a dictator who has no sense of how to direct a game... but Silk's always like that outside of his forums where he doesn't have the option of ignoring/deleting any statements that aren't in support of his opinions.

Plus if we leave them alone, they'll act like they won the argument anyways, so we get to save ourselves time and rising blood pressure; that time can be focused on more important things, like the game itself. If there's one thing Silk manages to do right, it's realizing that at the end of the day, it doesn't matter what people say you do, it's what you actually do. If we play his game of warring words, we're not concentrating on keeping the game running and/or improving it. If we brush him off and focus on our game, all that leaves him with is a variant of a post he's made thousands of times before ("See? I'm always right and thus anyone who disagrees with me is always wrong.") before going back to sitting around with a 'collection' of games he hasn't done dick to really improve for a year or two now.

Now, if someone feels that defending the game on a communications medium is still necessary, then there are better choices than on the blog of someone who has nothing to gain by having the game's merits (and his shortcomings) come to light. Find a neutral arena where the 'moderator' is just as likely to criticize our side as they would Met's/Silk's side.

[Stryfe]

Yeah, I do understand all of us have been slapped. First of all, I have a couple of questions.

1. Who is this waste of sperm named Silk?
2. Why the fuck is Mettool running to Silk?

Personally, I see Mettool as nothing but a liar and someone I once respected till the truth came out. The only suggestion I have is to hack into each one of these sperm wastes' computers, find out where they live, rip out their spine through their anal cavity, then stab their remaining corpse with the end of their spinal cord, and end of story.

Though this could never happen and would be going WAY too far. I do agree Met has 'betrayed' (yeah a bit cliche) us, and as I begun to see his true behavior, he is nothing but the sack of shit he acted in front of me as he only updated once in a while, and came to every rulebreaker's defense.

I would also consider 'Taking this bitch to tha streets', but again, I fail at a 'civil' solution. Though Taka's ideas are once again not too shabby. This might be the start/resuming of a long fight.

Really isn't anything I can add to this point, except I'm pissed. Pissed to the point where I once again want to go serial killer, but don't worry I won't.

Bottom Line: It's Raging Demon Style Time.

EDITS:
Ok, I was mad that day and gotten a bit too much into that... but once again 'Fuck Met, Fuck Silk' by Taka is a good idea. I guess the best thing we can do is ignore him.

[Hiroshima]

I believe you should ALL look at his post again...read it again, especially the very bottom. I spoke with Mettool...things have gotten way out of hand with everyone...we've all been over-reacting and bashing Mettool is stooping down to the level of Silkwizard and his forums.

[Stryfe]

That may be... but look what he had to do. He had to run to his friends to back him up...

EDIT: The only thing I saw overreacting was me...

[Hiroshima]

he may have ran to his friends, and his friends may be controlling ass-wipes (Silk) but still, he has attempted to right what went wrong...partly atleast

[Stryfe]

True true... I still don't like him, but then again, if he meant to insult THG, he's insulting us as well, since we (well y'all) made the game. But, an attempt is better than no attempt.

EDIT: Damn you Hiroshima and your Sherlock Holmes ways.

[Hiroshima]

His opinion of this game is of the game and not so much of the creators, for instance, i may like Ipods but hat Mac and everything about them, the PSP seems like a not-so-bad hand-held but i hate everything about it's creator(s) -- Sony...it works both ways, because i dislike something does not mean i dislike who made it and vice versa. (if that made sense? it did in my head.)

[Takahashi]

While Met's actions aren't worthy of a 'let's lynch him!!' reaction, they're not worthy of a 'let's go easy on him guys!!' reaction either.

If by some fluke of nature we WERE responsible for making him into a bad host, it would imply that he allowed us to do as such; becoming a bad host is not something that can occur without the target allowing it to happen. As such, I can not feel bad for him in such a case, because it's something that he had every right and ability to prevent, and yet it happened anyways.

Similarly, he allowed his friends to guide his actions. Retracting the apology was an idea formulated and strongly supported by Silk and the like, not Met. For all I know, Met really wanted the apology to stay because he recognized his overreaction and meant to criticize the grind that the game had taken on him, not any problems he may have had with the Brotherhood. I'll never know though because he took it down, whether it was done reluctantly or not.

What does it say about a man when he lets others decide how he should act; when he lets them influence him in ways that he recognizes as negative (whether immediately or not)? Is that something we should damn him for? Is that something we should comfort him over? Are we even in a position to pass judgment along these lines; do any of us know Met on a personal basis such that we can be able to ask the kinds of things that actual friends would be asking about?

These are the interesting questions; the ones that need to be addressed.

[Hiroshima]

i wasn't tending to him like a wounded animal and i'm not letting him go easy, but that fact that he actually has put up that small clerification is one step towards something in a better direction, is it not?

[Takahashi]

Yes, it is. However, the apology was also a step in a better direction; a step that was later reversed (or perhaps minimized into the clarification that blog post now has). Still, you are right; some progress is better than none at all.